(Can I love God Part 2) Social Justice Anyone?

LOVE AND JUSTICE COEXISTING
Remember I told about 1 John 4 "God is Love." many people have trouble understanding Him as love as well as Holy and Just all at once. So, let me explain how Christ reconciles the perfect Holiness of God (He must to uphold righteousness and justice by nature and His character makes Him forever true to His Word and Holy standards) Well, how then do Grace and Wrath fit in the same plan? God must uphold Justice and "the wages ( consequence or punishment) of sin is death (romans 3)" and in the same chapter "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Now, if God must remain Holy and perfect and be the perfect Judge that His is, and you wouldn't want it any other way, than He has to punish sin. We as finite beings and sinners may ask "is that fair?" Yes, it is what we all deserve, no matter how nice a person seems, sin is still present.... that's why Jesus came. And you and I know that Jesus had to have chosen to come for lots of reasons.
If people don't want God to punish sin than Holiness and true Justice would not be exercised, and what would Jesus have died for? Jesus' death paid the "wages of sin" for "those who believe (john 1:12 and 3:16)" So, his love and mercy created a bridge to justice and wrath. For those who believe, God poured out the wrath and punishment that we earned unto Christ on the cross . Jesus' sacrifice satisfies true and fair justice, because OUR sin, for those who accept it, has been paid for, we are covered by the precious Blood of The Lamb who was slain before the foundation of the world. Those who reject God's act and extension of divine love, grace and mercy, may say "I'll take my chances, or maybe He'll let me off the hook?" and still have to pay for the "wages" that they have earned by sinning over an over. Jesus offers them the chance for Him to pay their debt for them and some people refuse, thinking “if my good wages (deeds and their consequential actions) out weigh my bad ones than maybe that will be enough?" But as long as sin is still unaccounted for (by God who knows all), than the one who committed the sins will be held accountable for them unless they can pay or someone else (namely JESUS) can pay it for them.
Some people think they may think that this life gives them enough time to do enough good works to get by, but the law of God demands and requires perfection which only comes from Him any way. If we try to obtain perfection some other way we would “fall short” like Romans 3 says. Jesus said in the gospels that every “word" and "a man's works" will be judged according to what a person has done. Its more than fair, for God has given us an opportunity to receive a redemption that even angels don not get. AND His also gave us Himself, His Son, God in the Flesh. He came and dwelt among us (John 1). So, if God dies for us than that is above and beyond what a limited sense of justice like ours would obligate Him to do. His Mercy is so great because he didn't have to do all that just for us, He had the power and the right to destroy us all. And remember that God is Life itself and separation from Him, or Life, is death. than death is what we deserve, separation from Him, which is what hell truly is, I chose Christ I chose Life, you see? Any way, you may have heard this but I know that God's wrath is hard to understand sometimes, I just wanted to assure you that the God who has"lavished His love on us (Paul said)" is the same God who "will judge the living and the dead (1 peter)"AND that this is a good and marvelous truth that God can be both LOVE and JUSTICE all at once.

Praise God, Amen!! thanks for reading with and open heart. love you - B

Its like this, God is the Judge and Love as well. Let's Imagine a court room, maybe the Judge
(played by GOD) would be examining this case. The accuser (the devil) could say, “Your Honor, in the case of “the Law versus “mankind”, you have admitted to the whole human race, as recorded in their own texts, that “all like sheep have gone astray (Book of Isaiah)” and giving them your own Holy Law stating, “Chose this day... life or death (Exodus and Deuteronomy).” Therefore you're own words condemn them. Should you not correct this matter? than let the defendants be sentenced immediately.” And then the Defense counsel (Jesus) who is also the prosecution ( He would be the only one qualified for both positions) could say, “Your honor, Father, I do not need to remind this court of the agreement we had before the foundation of the world and the creation of mankind.” The judge could reply, “What I have done, I have done. All have sinned and fallen short of my Glory and the wages of (their) sin is death. Since, my glory has been dishonored and evil has taken place because of this sin, the price of death must be paid that My Law may be upheld in perfect justice.” So, maybe the Judge sends a summons letter, a copy of the law and explanations thereof (all 3 are in the Bible) to those who represent the whole human race (Prophets and Apostles). And part of the letter could say something like this, “Because of your deeds and disregard for the law a sentencing must commence-but your Advocate (lawyer) and I have come to an agreement that fulfills the law to the fullest degree, and still gives each of you a chance to pay for the damages that you have done according to your works... we have decided that you have exactly one lifetime or how ever long you live, to find someone else to pay this debt for you, since you are unable. He must be blameless and without sin, and worthy of the highest honor and praise in order to withstand death (the punishment) and my wrath. I am pleased to announce to the defendants, that the defense counsel Himself, Jesus Christ my own Son, has offered to pay these damages for you in accordance with the terms of the law. He has appeased my Holy anger and satisfied my jealous and compassionate love for you by willingly shedding His own blood unto death for each of you and rising again unto glory So, do you accept His offer and come into agreement with my only Son and I?” Now, God is really a Judge and Jesus is our real Advocate and doesn't this scenario sound somewhat similar to the Bible?

"Judge rightly," Quotes to be examined.

Luke 6:³⁶Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. ³⁷"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. ³⁸Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Matthew 7 ¹"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. ²For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. ³"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

Luke 12:⁵⁶Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don't know how to interpret this present time? ⁵⁷"Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right? ⁵⁸ As you are going with your adversary to the magistrate, try hard to be reconciled to him on the way, or he may drag you off to the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. "

"God loves you just the way you are" and "follow your heart and you can't go wrong?"

God does love us just the way we are, that's why He won't let us stay that way! Jesus said that murder, adultery and all kinds of evil come out of the heart of man and (the prophet Jeremiah states that the heart is wicked, THATS ONE REASON WHY JESUS FOCUSED SOME MUCH ON HEART MATTERS. Some use these phrases to excuse behavior but JESUS' DEATH is in response to that of 'original sin,' ( being born with the sin of Adam( the first man) and inherently sinners ourselves). the Bible teaches that we are born with sin in our veins and we all do it knowingly one way or another sometime in our life (knowingly refers to any age we become aware and accountable for of thoughts and actions)

So, this means that God formed you like a master potter with His clay and when the water of the Holy Spirit covers you (the clay vessel) (Paul references clay vessels) than you become softened up to be continually formed and molded be God's hands. You see, His love for you employs Him to want to change you with your sinfulness. If we are born into sin than even genes can be effected in some cases: for example like if your father was an alcoholic than you might be to, or some flippiently say that homorns in the water can cause people to be born gay (I don't believe this), and thus they say "God loves you just the way you are" and "follow your heart and you can't go wrong." BUT if God is freeing us from the sin we are born with than whether you are born an sinner who struggles with lieing/ cheating/stealing/ whatever, or a sinner who is born alcoholic, or even if one could be born gay, we are still sinners by nature and need Jesus and the transformation of being born again/ the gentle and truthful Potter's hand. (being born with sin means we need reborn or born again of the Holy Spirit with a new nature in us that fights against the sinful nature (read paul's writings on Spirit vs flesh). I realize that being born with something like alcoholism or even if one could be born gay, would a struggle in that of itself, but That's what DIVINE INTERVENTION is available for. The potter is readily available to all whose pottery is cracked, broken or mishapened. You see, God did make you, but He is also continually 'making' you, it's still in process. Who will you become when this life is over.

"Judge not"- heart vs actions, actions vs intentions

Jesus said "judge not lest ye be judged. Whatever measure you have given will be given unto you."

Wow that is big!! Admitingly, many people use that verse as an excuse, like I was saying before, as if people shouldn't judge anything at all. Well, Jesus also told the Pharisees to "Just rightly" or "judge for yourselves what is right". So, He still wants us to judge between right and wrong. "God weighs the heart (psalms)" and "you desire truth in the inmost parts (psalm 51)." Jesus is saying also saying not to judge the heart for we don't know on our own people's thoughts and intentions except by Divine revelation (gifts of the Holy Spirit, example: gifts of prophecy like a 'word of knowlege,' (1 corinth and Ephesions). God judges the heart and He is the ultimate Judge of all things. If we think we know it all than we are mistaken, ( james chap 1 , if any of you lack wisdom ask God who give liberally with out question) We all need more wisdom in judging what is right and making right judgments, and we need not make excuses either (romans 2)

Romans 2 God's Righteous Judgment

¹You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. ²Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. ³So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? ⁴Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?

⁵But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. ⁶God "will give to each person according to what he has done."^a]">[a] ⁷To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. ⁸But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. ⁹There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; ¹⁰but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. ¹¹For God does not show favoritism.

1 Corinthians 6:1Lawsuits Among Believers

¹If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? ²Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? ³Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!


note: This life is where we learn to judge before we did it in the next.


1 Corinthians 5:12"What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

1 Corinthians 5:13 God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."

Note: How can I judge or in this context, "hold accountable" people who embrace the sinful nature, are there not captive to it. Than how can I say to an alcoholic or pro-choicer "stop" so hastily, if i don't first offer them the Holy Spirit who overcomes the sinful nature? then once one is born again apart from the inhereted sinful flesh, they can seek God's counsel to began to judge rightly and against their fleshly lusts

HERE IS MORE FOR FURTHER STUDY TO DECIDE FOR YOURSELVES
THESE WILL AS JESUS' WORDS DO, BLOW YOUR MIND and that's the point.

Romans 12" be no conformed to this world but transformed by the renewing of your mind"

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1. Romans 2:1
   [ God's Righteous Judgment ] You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
   Romans 2:1-3 (in Context) Romans 2 (Whole Chapter)
2. Romans 2:12
   All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.
   Romans 2:11-13 (in Context) Romans 2 (Whole Chapter)
3. Romans 2:16
   This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
   Romans 2:15-17 (in Context) Romans 2 (Whole Chapter)
4. Romans 3:4
   Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge."
   Romans 3:3-5 (in Context) Romans 3 (Whole Chapter)
5. Romans 3:6
   Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world?
   Romans 3:5-7 (in Context) Romans 3 (Whole Chapter)
6. Romans 14:4
   Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
   Romans 14:3-5 (in Context) Romans 14 (Whole Chapter)
7. Romans 14:10
   You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.
   Romans 14:9-11 (in Context) Romans 14 (Whole Chapter)
8. 1 Corinthians 4:3
   I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself.
   1 Corinthians 4:2-4 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 4 (Whole Chapter)
9. 1 Corinthians 4:4
   My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me.
   1 Corinthians 4:3-5 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 4 (Whole Chapter)
10. 1 Corinthians 4:5
    Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.
    1 Corinthians 4:4-6 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 4 (Whole Chapter)
11. 1 Corinthians 5:12
    What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
    1 Corinthians 5:11-13 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 5 (Whole Chapter)
12. 1 Corinthians 5:13
    God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."
    1 Corinthians 5:12-13 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 5 (Whole Chapter)
13. 1 Corinthians 6:2
    Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases?
    1 Corinthians 6:1-3 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 6 (Whole Chapter)
14. 1 Corinthians 6:3
    Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!
    1 Corinthians 6:2-4 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 6 (Whole Chapter)
15. 1 Corinthians 6:4
    Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church!
    1 Corinthians 6:3-5 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 6 (Whole Chapter)
16. 1 Corinthians 6:5
    I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers?
    1 Corinthians 6:4-6 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 6 (Whole Chapter)
17. 1 Corinthians 10:15
    I speak to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I say.
    1 Corinthians 10:14-16 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 10 (Whole Chapter)
18. 1 Corinthians 10:29
    the other man's conscience, I mean, not yours. For why should my freedom be judged by another's conscience?
    1 Corinthians 10:28-30 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 10 (Whole Chapter)
19. 1 Corinthians 11:13
    Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
    1 Corinthians 11:12-14 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 11 (Whole Chapter)
20. 1 Corinthians 11:31
    But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment.
    1 Corinthians 11:30-32 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 11 (Whole Chapter)
21. 1 Corinthians 11:32
    When we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned with the world.
    1 Corinthians 11:31-33 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 11 (Whole Chapter)
22. 1 Corinthians 14:24
    But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all,
    1 Corinthians 14:23-25 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 14 (Whole Chapter)
23. Galatians 2:6
    As for those who seemed to be important—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not judge by external appearance—those men added nothing to my message.
    Galatians 2:5-7 (in Context) Galatians 2 (Whole Chapter)
24. Colossians 2:16
    Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
    Colossians 2:15-17 (in Context) Colossians 2 (Whole Chapter)
25. 2 Timothy 4:1
    In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:
    2 Timothy 4:1-3 (in Context) 2 Timothy 4 (Whole Chapter)